historically in the colonial period, north and south america, we took what we needed. we took australia, or took what we needed from africa. speaking of the way the european community spread out. we never really backed off that model. we take resources we need. we take everything. we don't give enough back. we're crossing over a threshold where the earth is not going to be able to sustain us. >> why do you think business fights concerns about climate, about energy depletion, about the need to find renewables? why do they fight it? the people from the oil patch, oklahoma especially, constantly carping and denying. people like glenn beck making a living by not telling the truth. >> if you make your living in oil and the answer is a different answer, a different solution, and renewable energy like wind or solar or something like that, you'll deny that answer exists or probably going to deny that the problem exists. that's what these kind of professional deniers and skeptics are doing. they're swaying the public dialogue away from this major crisis that's looming. >> the f